3D Printed Carbine and Armor Upgrades

[ConservaTom]

Looking good! Can't wait to see the finished product.

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Looking good! Can't wait to see the finished product.

Thanks! Im really excited aswell!

Another update, butt of the gun fully completed, and started moving forward towards the barrel more!

Im still a little worried on the scale however, i dont know if its cause of the gun itself or the scale, just a tad bit worried still.

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

More updates on the carbine!
Started to print the barrel!

A little more sad news though, i have to get the printer shipped out and replaced. It started breaking down and doing all kinds of weird things. First, the feeding tube wouldn't stay connected to the motor that pushes it toward the extruder causing this:

the screws on the x-Axis bar somehow got loosened and caused the extruder to be misaligned. It would rub against the entire plate and you would hear this click click click sounds like the motor was skipping. Tried to do a X axis fix but it didnt help at all. Good thing is though, amazon is accepting the item no problem and I will have the replacement by wednesday!

 

[SI3RRA 117]

This build is looking good. Sorry about your printer headaches. Funny I've just gotten into 3d printing and seems i do a lot more fixing and tweaking then printing. Best of luck.

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

This build is looking good. Sorry about your printer headaches. Funny I've just gotten into 3d printing and seems i do a lot more fixing and tweaking then printing. Best of luck.

Thanks! I would have sat down to just dry and fix it, but i didnt want to risk voiding the warranty and being out a replacement hahahah

 

[harican89]

Hey, nice build and looking forward for the final result.
iam on it again and try to print my armor and weapon. at first i started with a h4 battle rifle 4 years ago. didnt finished it because i got problems with my printer and the project went so slow, that i lost interest. same goes with a mh6 magnum from h4 which i designed out of a low poly model. last but no least. a 95% percent finished ODST helmet and a 70% odst smg which i made higher poly

By the way. the silencer is detachable (printed thread inside)

since my printer workes really well again and i got interest again i searched for some assets for the full armor of CIO, Recon and Assault. Want to mix these up for an armor. but first... 3d modelling (low->high poly)
here is what i done for the assault one (but never printed)

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Hey, nice build and looking forward for the final result.
iam on it again and try to print my armor and weapon. at first i started with a h4 battle rifle 4 years ago. didnt finished it because i got problems with my printer and the project went so slow, that i lost interest. same goes with a mh6 magnum from h4 which i designed out of a low poly model. last but no least. a 95% percent finished ODST helmet and a 70% odst smg which i made higher poly

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By the way. the silencer is detachable (printed thread inside)

since my printer workes really well again and i got interest again i searched for some assets for the full armor of CIO, Recon and Assault. Want to mix these up for an armor. but first... 3d modelling (low->high poly)
here is what i done for the assault one (but never printed)
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That looks amazing!!!! both the helmet and the gun!!!! I have been wanting to make the air assault helmet for awhile now! Im building two suits for people right now and they both wanted recon. I tried convincing one of them to do air assault so i can make that helmet , it didnt work though

 

[Reclaimara]

To be honest, I don't want to discourage you but on my personal experience, it might be too big later on - when you put your full armor on.
Chest and shoulders restrict A LOT.
While I can wield my BR and AR perfectly without armor, they become too big with armor on - the buttstock is too long and I can somehow still wield the MA5D, but the BR is even bigger.
Here, I see a very similar case and personally I'd start it again but smaller, but in no way I'm discouraging you.

- Palmer

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

To be honest, I don't want to discourage you but on my personal experience, it might be too big later on - when you put your full armor on.
Chest and shoulders restrict A LOT.
While I can wield my BR and AR perfectly without armor, they become too big with armor on - the buttstock is too long and I can somehow still wield the MA5D, but the BR is even bigger.
Here, I see a very similar case and personally I'd start it again but smaller, but in no way I'm discouraging you.

- Palmer

Its all good! If it ends up being to big, I can just turn it into a 1:1 like prop and throw lights and sounds into, make it a special stand to go on a shelf and what not. Then just scale it down some more and reprint. No point in getting flustered about it. Honestly, i didnt think to properly scale the piece and think about it, just kinda subtracted 10% from the original model size. Oh well

 

[kaween]

Hahaha. No. it doesn't just seems that constant tweaking and fixing is a great part of 3D printing, it's a fact that's the case when ever you go for a low entry/self build machine. The sooner you realize that, the better.

The upside is : over time, you get really good at it and it won't impact your workflow the same way anymore.

As for scaling, maybe this picture will ease your mind a bit :

Carbine51 3D print of a year ago, source : myminifactory by Daniel Schunemann

So as I said, it's a BFG.

Also, while CommanderPalmer has a totally valid point and scaling down a gun is certainly something to consider, certainly with the "for Spartan Use" range of weapons (for example, a full scale M6H is like 35cm long : using that as an unscaled prop goes from one end of the spectrum (too small Boomco) to the other (way oversized pistol). The trick is to find something inbetween, and I favor the "relative to your own body length resize" method.

That being said, nearly everything would look too big on some members, while others can get away with it, just because of their physical frame.

But scaling down to the point where a hand can't fully grab a gun grip without leaving out a finger or even two ? Nope. That's about the worst you can get and you want to avoid that at any cost.
Incidently, the "51" is one of the worst offenders in the Boomco line as you can see here :

I mean, this is wrong on so many levels, I don't even want to start talking about it.

Also CPO mendez : If you want to be able to do what I suggest and don't know how, drop me a line : I'll set you up with what you need to do it and after 1 minute of talking you'll be able to do what I suggested all by yourself. The main purpose of me on this forum is -not- to keep things for myself but to allow others to learn from me as I learn from others.

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Hahaha. No. it doesn't just seems that constant tweaking and fixing is a great part of 3D printing, it's a fact that's the case when ever you go for a low entry/self build machine. The sooner you realize that, the better.

The upside is : over time, you get really good at it and it won't impact your workflow the same way anymore.

As for scaling, maybe this picture will ease your mind a bit :

Carbine51 3D print of a year ago, source : myminifactory by Daniel Schunemann

So as I said, it's a BFG.

Ok im feeling ya on that one hahah. Who knows? maybe it will be all good scale wise or maybe not! BUT! It definitely is a great starting point for me into 3d printing. Its been real fun so far! But like i said, too big or too small, I will work with it one way or another! Its honestly too much fun for me to head to class, then come back an hour or two later and have a fully printed piece waiting for me to glue it to the rest of the body

 

[kaween]

Hehehehe. The reason I pointed this out is mainly because 99% of the people I talk with think 3D printing has become about as commonplace and easy to use as a normale ink/laser printer. Last week I did a Star Wars oriented prop/model for my bro-in-law's birthday, and while the other family members all resorted to paperfolding/origami figures, I did a 3D print.

So the first thing I hear from another bro-in-law when seeing my completed model was "oh yeah but Kris has it easy, he just puts the file on this pc and presses "print"".

No. Sadly that's not the state of affairs in 3D print land. Not by any distance. I would say "not yet", but I also don't see that change overnight, certainly not with the current state of technology and I for one am certain a lot of the disappointments when entering 3D printing is going in thinking it's indeed very much a "load up and press print" process.

While there are machines that are sold on that premise, I've found that in such cases the mfg'er of the machine has bundled the device with a slicer that has such a cut-down level of control you "can hardly **** up anything" during the setup fase, but the lack of control also kind condemns you in to producing very mediocre quality output. So in a sense, those MFG'ers are cheating their customers making them believe their machines somehow are not affected by the normal do's and do-nots that rule the 3D world. (Most known offenders here include Dremel, Tiko, .... and a few others).

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Hehehehe. The reason I pointed this out is mainly because 99% of the people I talk with think 3D printing has become about as commonplace and easy to use as a normale ink/laser printer. Last week I did a Star Wars oriented prop/model for my bro-in-law's birthday, and while the other family members all resorted to paperfolding/origami figures, I did a 3D print.

So the first thing I hear from another bro-in-law when seeing my completed model was "oh yeah but Kris has it easy, he just puts the file on this pc and presses "print"".

No. Sadly that's not the state of affairs in 3D print land. Not by any distance. I would say "not yet", but I also don't see that change overnight, certainly not with the current state of technology and I for one am certain a lot of the disappointments when entering 3D printing is going in thinking it's indeed very much a "load up and press print" process.

While there are machines that are sold on that premise, I've found that in such cases the mfg'er of the machine has bundled the device with a slicer that has such a cut-down level of control you "can hardly **** up anything" during the setup fase, but the lack of control also kind condemns you in to producing very mediocre quality output. So in a sense, those MFG'ers are cheating their customers making them believe their machines somehow are not affected by the normal do's and do-nots that rule the 3D world. (Most known offenders here include Dremel, Tiko, .... and a few others).

Yeah, thats a small gripe i got with my da vinci mini, the program has a built in slicer that, for the love of me trying to figure out how, can not be turned off. Its SUCHHHHH A PAIN IN THE BUTT. I wish i could slice it myself and figure out how i specifically want the piece printed. IM afraid that even if i run the model through a 3rd party slicer, the auto slicer on the da vinci will just slice up the already sliced model, completely just destroying the work i have done. (if that makes any sense)

 

[kaween]

Drop me a line on that, maybe we can solve that for you.

 

[Reclaimara]

Then I'm very relieved even if it turns out too big, you won't be sad!
And yeah, totally agree, if you're just going into 3d printing, it's more of a test and experiment - more of those never hurt.

From my own experience - I thought my 90% scaled BR and AR would be perfect, but I wasn't aware how much the armor would restrict the space, the very needed space for butt-stock, so it was for me surprising and disappointing to see my perfect rifles aren't perfect fit and while I'll finish them and wear maybe few times, I'll definitely want to get something smaller and more fitting.

Here, just as a comparison, the AR is fully 1:1 - it was already hard enough to handle it without any armor at all. I know I wouldn't be able to handle it with any armor pieces on.

Second is BR scaled to 90% (have the AR scaled to 90% too), while it's still more or less possible to wield it, it's already hard to handle it. It's fine when you're in position with the rifle resting, but any pointing it - it's hard, the buttstock is longer than with AR, so it's harder to get it between chest and shoulder armor.
Next time I'll go for 80%, so make it 10% smaller and it should be perfect.

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Then I'm very relieved even if it turns out too big, you won't be sad!
And yeah, totally agree, if you're just going into 3d printing, it's more of a test and experiment - more of those never hurt.

From my own experience - I thought my 90% scaled BR and AR would be perfect, but I wasn't aware how much the armor would restrict the space, the very needed space for butt-stock, so it was for me surprising and disappointing to see my perfect rifles aren't perfect fit and while I'll finish them and wear maybe few times, I'll definitely want to get something smaller and more fitting.

Here, just as a comparison, the AR is fully 1:1 - it was already hard enough to handle it without any armor at all. I know I wouldn't be able to handle it with any armor pieces on.

Second is BR scaled to 90% (have the AR scaled to 90% too), while it's still more or less possible to wield it, it's already hard to handle it. It's fine when you're in position with the rifle resting, but any pointing it - it's hard, the buttstock is longer than with AR, so it's harder to get it between chest and shoulder armor.
Next time I'll go for 80%, so make it 10% smaller and it should be perfect.

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Personally to me, i think that the battle rifle scale looks good in that photo. I do however totally understand what your are talking about with chest and biceps, aswell as the butt of the gun resting properly in that area. It also looks like the handle of the BR fits your hand perfectly. Thats i just ended up scaling the carbine, just measuring the area where the fingers go with the gloves on, then scaling the carbine to meet that hand size measurement thingy

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Yay! So i got the new printer! Everything came with it all good, calibrated fine, set the x axis up! It is now printing away and continuing this build! Expect more updates now!

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Printed more pieces finally, only 5 left to go on the main body!

To be honest, I don't want to discourage you but on my personal experience, it might be too big later on - when you put your full armor on.
Chest and shoulders restrict A LOT.
While I can wield my BR and AR perfectly without armor, they become too big with armor on - the buttstock is too long and I can somehow still wield the MA5D, but the BR is even bigger.
Here, I see a very similar case and personally I'd start it again but smaller, but in no way I'm discouraging you.

- Palmer

I took what you said and i decided to throw on the chest, shoulder and gauntlets on while i held the gun.

What i have noticed is that, the chest piece definitely impeded how i could hold the gun, but that also could be the way soldier chest is with how it pops out. There wasnt really too much of a problem on the shoulder armor. I will however in the near future be changing the armor to perfectly match this ( changing chest, shoulders, and gauntlets.)

 

[StayFrosty]

Lookin' good so far! It's rare to see a carbine around here, so that's pretty cool!

 

[Dat1Darkrai]

Lookin' good so far! It's rare to see a carbine around here, so that's pretty cool!

Thanks! Carbine by far, is my most favorite weapon to use in all of the halo games. I love it soooo much!!!!!!