Not what happend. You lie dude. Why you lie this is what was said.
Me and my girl friend talked to this guy and here is everything that was said. He's admitted to reposting our files on google sketch. He's also admitted to posting our files on 405th.com and said there isn't a damn thing we can do about it. He's amitted that he's going to tell you a lie version of what was said. so yeah Me (fox and my g/f wolf are a bit angry). please email back.
John Wieger: are you online
outlaw013: sec trying to help someone
John Wieger: fine
outlaw013: sup
John Wieger: we need to talk
outlaw013: I hear that you've posted our Lambo on the 405th.com
outlaw013: a big no no
outlaw013: we actually have the URL and pictures as proof
outlaw013: posted by nintendo dude
outlaw013: we've tried to contact you like 7 times on my g/f's yahoo account
outlaw013: me and my G/F
John Wieger: not to my knowledge I may have asked for help on the modeling but not the file
outlaw013: We thought you bailed and you posted it on the 405th.com
outlaw013: so we brought adam into the picture
John Wieger: Also you have been sent an email on this matter, If you wish for me to delete the files on my computer then so be it
outlaw013: We want teh pepakura files you have
outlaw013: we don't appreate being accused of giving you a virus
outlaw013: we didn't do
John Wieger: and second my computer did crash which took my registered pep designer program with it
outlaw013: That's not our fault
outlaw013: we want our pepakura files
outlaw013: you said you had the hood, doors, front, back and fin done with pepakura
outlaw013: we want our files
John Wieger: Second your pep files have been deleted from my computer, the 3d files as well when I formatted my computer the only thing I have is your 3d files and pep still in my email account that I can delete those message
outlaw013: Not what you posted on 405th.com
outlaw013: I don't belvie you
John Wieger: when my computer crashed due to a virus, it removed them when I formatted the computer to put XP back on
outlaw013: not what you posted on that form on 405th.com
outlaw013: you claimed it was yours
outlaw013: somethingn about a go carrt
outlaw013: and you posted another user name that you've given the files too
outlaw013: so yeah we want our pepakura files
John Wieger: let me just guess posted by Juice
outlaw013: Posted by Nintendo dude
outlaw013: 8 hours ago
John Wieger: do you have the link
outlaw013: we had adam take down your thread
John Wieger: fine
outlaw013:
http://405th.com/forums/index.php?s...14550&hl=nintendude&fromsearch=1&#entry314550
outlaw013: Your name is in the thread that posted it
outlaw013: So tell me another lie
John Wieger: there is not any pep files made, the only files I have is the 3D file of it still
outlaw013: we've already contacted a lawyer
John Wieger: who started the post
John Wieger: who started the post
outlaw013: You started the post
outlaw013: your star war files
outlaw013: then the next day you posted our pepakura file with the hood taken off and everythign
outlaw013: yeah what the hell
John Wieger: in the thread with my star wars files?
outlaw013: yeah it's posted by nintendo dude
outlaw013: which means you posted it
outlaw013: we asked you not to post it
outlaw013: Fox and I are the artist and only gave you permission to pepakura it
outlaw013: yet you decided to post it on 405th.com
outlaw013: adam haas all the evidence
outlaw013: we've already told him we've tried to contact you 7 times
outlaw013: and you've been avoiding us
outlaw013: not cool
John Wieger: FINE THE THREAD IS DOWN THE FILES ARE HEREBY DELETED ANY MORE ON IT AND I WILL HIRE MY OWN LAWYER FOR HARRASMENT CHARGES
outlaw013: No harrasment has been made
outlaw013: you violated our art work
John Wieger: not emailing me every single day alsmost trying to find out how far I have gotten with the fiules is not harrasment then you tell me what it is
outlaw013: That's not harrasment and no we didn't email you every day. We've only contacted you twice.
outlaw013: Legal defintion of harrasment means the party memeber had to say stop talking to me or else
outlaw013: you've made no such claim
outlaw013: we've emailed adam all our emails we've sent you
John Wieger: and I have e-mailed dave and adam almost all the YIM messages we have had
outlaw013: Yeah we didn't email you and we've only contacted you twice.
outlaw013: your 405th.com membership was given a warning for stealing and posting our artwork with our permision
outlaw013: And once again we've only Pmed you once
outlaw013: you've pmed us each other time
John Wieger: really my warn staus is still clean and white
outlaw013: cool i'll make a copy of this and inform adam your saying you told adam about the PM's
outlaw013: and inform him so you wont to lie
outlaw013: You claim you didn't
outlaw013: your user name and the URL dosn't lie
outlaw013: we asked u not to post our art work
outlaw013: and what did you do
John Wieger: either way the files you sent and whatever files on my computer have been removed including the post if I am correct so this is over with
outlaw013: Nope not over with we'll be filing a complaint
John Wieger: just like I can tell you to remove any of my files that you might have downloaded
outlaw013: with the ethics online commity
outlaw013: we don't have any of your files
outlaw013: your files have been downloaded from 501st
outlaw013: and you try to pass them off as your own
outlaw013: which is sad and pathetic
John Wieger: I sent you an email when this first began which had all of my Star Wars file links did you not recieve that
outlaw013: No, I didn't and i've already contacted the GM of 501st.com
John Wieger: excuse me??? the files are not from the 501st
outlaw013: and he claims you've tried to pass others work as your own
outlaw013: according to him you're a theif and should be treated as such
outlaw013: we've received our star wars files from them
outlaw013: we don't have any files from you
John Wieger: The 3D files came from SciFi3d, the modeler was a friend of mine that seperated the files into sections and I did the unfolding
outlaw013: And you said you'd give us our pepakured files
outlaw013: we don't belive you deleted them
outlaw013: someone who puts that much work into something won't delete them
outlaw013: which is why we're filing a police report
John Wieger: when I delete I delete
outlaw013: we'll be happy to give the police your home address and your name
John Wieger: feel free they can even search my computer
outlaw013: Yeah you gave it to that juicy person
outlaw00001: who has them
John Wieger: he has the lambo file
outlaw013: you already admited you gave a 3rd party the files
outlaw013: and you've already admited you've posted our art work with our permission
John Wieger: no other files
outlaw013: our pepakura files modeld off of our 3d file?
outlaw013: then that's our property
John Wieger: the pep files were not posted
outlaw013: That's a lie
John Wieger: check again kemosabe its a .mqo file
John Wieger: if anything
outlaw013: we will drop the police report when we have our pepakura files in hand
outlaw013: until then we have nothing to disscuss
outlaw013: you've iillegaly posted our art work on the 405th.com
outlaw013: it's under your user name
John Wieger: fine with me good luck with that report
outlaw013: We have Adams admition you did in fact post it
outlaw013: we have your admition that you did in fact post it
outlaw013: that you also shared our artwork with others
John Wieger: you file a report on me I file one on you fair enough
outlaw013: You've violated a legal law
outlaw013: go look it up
outlaw013: not your art work
outlaw013: and you've refused to give us our pepakura files modeled off of our art work
outlaw013: legally 15 years it's our proprety
John Wieger: as for the pep files of the Lambo yes there was three oieces done of the hood and fenders but nothing was posted on them and they have been deleted from my computer
outlaw013: We are asking you to recover them and give them to us and wipe your computer of our car files
outlaw013: we also have evidence of you posting a picture of our 3d car on 405th.com
John Wieger: I can also go on the Google Sketchup gallery and find anything that you have sent me right there along with other Sketchup files of Lambos so really why would I want your files anymore
outlaw013: we have adams own words that you did in fact do so
outlaw013: So you've illlgealy posted our files
outlaw013: that's cute
John Wieger: want me to go searching I bet every file is done by a diffrent person
outlaw013: we want our pepakura files please
outlaw013: and you to walk away
John Wieger: don't have your pep files as said before they have been deleted
outlaw013: You've agreed that you'd give them by sunda
outlaw013: you signed your name
outlaw013: that by our state law is a contract
John Wieger: not anymore after deletion
outlaw013: also you agreed and signed your name that you wouldn't post our art work
outlaw013: that also is a contract
outlaw013: you've violated both
outlaw013: so your in the wrong not us
John Wieger: I don't recall a contract
outlaw013: we have copies of your email so go ahead and play stupid
John Wieger: or was this in exchage for your guns or your Mk-Vi files
outlaw013: we never gave you any MK-files
outlaw013: we asked you to complete our car
John Wieger: no but if the files for the lambo were done I was told by running fox that I would be snt the Mk files
outlaw013: We said we'd maybe give them to you
John Wieger: want me to retrieve the talk me and him ahd
outlaw013: we told you we wouldn't and talked you trhough how to resize
outlaw013: told you to go to rezising in 2d and go to CM
John Wieger: I already knew how to resize things problem was my desiger
outlaw013: there's your resizing
John Wieger: which I have changed
outlaw013: told you to go to abrants videos
outlaw013: it's on youtube
outlaw013: so we already told you what you wanted to know
John Wieger: I know very well about abrant
outlaw013: yet you can't come up with your end of the bargon
John Wieger: what bargin all you did was email me the files for all these cars and stuff which have been deleted
outlaw013: Hmm from the email we have from you
outlaw013: signed by John Wieger
outlaw013: that you promised in your email
outlaw013: which is a written contract
outlaw013: that you wouldn't repost our car
outlaw013: you've violated that 10 hours ago
outlaw013: you promised you wouldn't share our files
outlaw013: you've violated that
outlaw013: you promised you'd give us our pepakura files
outlaw013: you've violated that
outlaw013: you have someone else holding on to our pepakura / 3d files and you said your going ot repost them
outlaw013: so what part of your BUll story am I not hearing
outlaw013: the fact you don't have the artist permission
outlaw013: or the fact you have in your possesion and your friends possesion stolen property
John Wieger: well lets see if I did post the files, which I can't tell since the post has been deleted from the 405th, along with any files of yours from my computer and from my e-mail account
outlaw013: we already sent the link to adam
outlaw013: he's seen it
John Wieger: as for the files sent to my friend you can tell him to delete those files he has but thats up to him
outlaw013: we have screen prints
outlaw013: of your user name
outlaw013: and you claiming our art as yours
John Wieger: show the screen print
outlaw013: This was posted by you on your 405th.com user account
outlaw013: you said you wouldn't post our 3d or our pepakura files
outlaw013: so we've proved you wrong
John Wieger has closed photo sharing.
John Wieger: ok yes then I suppose I did post it on the 405th I guess, sorry for that but with memory problems I can't remember $#!T from a shingle
John Wieger: but still the post has been deleted from the 405th site
outlaw013: so we have to show you a picture
outlaw013: of what you did
outlaw013: or you lie to us
outlaw013: that's not very nice or proffesional
John Wieger: who said I was nice to begin with
outlaw013: tell you what we have your friends user name which you've amited to on your file that you said you'd post our files with out our permision
outlaw013: you've admitted to it
outlaw013: we've shown adam
outlaw013: and he said you'd be temp banned if you didn't remove it
outlaw013: and we have admittion from you that you're refusing (refusing) to give us back our pepakura files / 3d files
outlaw013: you said in a email 8 hours ago you'd email us back our files
outlaw013: was that a lie too?
John Wieger: because they have been deleted
outlaw013: What did you tell us 3 days ago you've been to prision
John Wieger: for the 4th time tonight
outlaw013: well I guess people like you don't change much huh
John Wieger: ha neither do you
outlaw013: You lie, you cheat
outlaw013: you steal our art work and try to take credit for it
John Wieger: should I mention yours and your friends youtube, myspace and other postings that you have said to people of threats and accusations
outlaw013: we didn't type those
John Wieger: I can pull them all of the 405th right now if you like
outlaw013: those youtube was made by 17 other people
outlaw013: 80% of them was made by tonny who lives in SLC Utah
John Wieger: regretfulflyerxxx isnt your youtube or myspace name
outlaw013: Regretfulflyerxxx is mine because it was mine to begin with we let the CCE run themselves and let them have the accounts, I quit after adam refused to help, we've only talked to two people
outlaw013: adam
outlaw013: and we've only contacted you once
outlaw013: the other 8 times you've talked to the dirty 17 as me and my G/F call them
outlaw013: we broke ties with them about a while ago
outlaw013: and yes it's on Colroado Sherrifs report
outlaw013: so go ahead lie
outlaw013: that's what you good at isn't it
John Wieger: I have to wonder how many police reports you and your "friends" have agaisnt you right now
outlaw013: Me and my g/f Zero
outlaw013: we didn't make those threats
outlaw013: already told you the
Regretfulflyer@aol.com account used to be open to like 20 people
outlaw013: we've since called aol, and yahoo and reset the password and had regretfulflyer closed
John Wieger: well thats what happens when you share accounts
outlaw013: we've explained to them 17 other people have been trying to act like us
outlaw013: well thats what happens when u play with one brain cell ( Shows u your mirrior immage)
John Wieger: the main owner gets blamed
outlaw013: wow your really dumb arn't you
John Wieger: you know you would think that in the military you would have learned proper spelling
outlaw013: you've already admitted to theft
John Wieger: mirrior immage
outlaw013: don't think my spelling has anything to do with it
outlaw013: You've already admitted to slander
outlaw013: you've admitted to bearing false witness, fabercating lies and posting them on 405th.com's website
outlaw013: like I said we don't have youtube accounts
outlaw013: I closed mine 6 months ago durring the bejing olympics
outlaw013: my G/f closed hers like 3 days ago
outlaw013: due to threats by the CCE
John Wieger: So you don't think that the last IM we had where either you or one of your friend sent me pictures of Daves Family with wanting a message put on them
outlaw013: Must of been tony
outlaw013: wasn't me
outlaw013: we've already told adam, and he knows all
outlaw013: 4 of them live in the USA
outlaw013: the other 13 live over seas
John Wieger: when I was on this IM it said lonewolf next to the name now how can I tell who I am talking to when that name there on my screen is'nt changing
outlaw013: we gave him screen names and cities where these invidials live
outlaw013: No it didn't show Lonewolf you contacted me on
regretfulflyer@aol.com which me and my G/F closed it
outlaw013: and you've admited to theft
John Wieger: and?
outlaw013: and that you said you wouldn't give us our files
John Wieger: due to deletion
outlaw013: i'll see your ass in small claims court
John Wieger: good luck
outlaw013: you made 2 contracts with us
outlaw013: go read law book felon
John Wieger: more than likely you'll get laughed out of court
outlaw013: more likely you'll get fined
outlaw013: for ethics
outlaw013: and given probation for theft
John Wieger: ha would'nt be the first set of fines
outlaw013: and more time for slander / bearing false withness
John Wieger: oh i'll just make up a lie and tell adam that you guys on youtube said if there was theft I was the one would be beaten
outlaw013: didn't say that
outlaw013: so go ahead
outlaw013: lie some more
outlaw013: make up lies
outlaw013: it's what your good at
John Wieger: slander / false witness doesnt stand in court and adam won't belive you guys he'll belive me
outlaw013: show proof
outlaw013: you have no proof
outlaw013: your word vs mine and Me and my G/F didn't say that
John Wieger: exactlyu
outlaw013: so sounds like we have nothing more to talk about
John Wieger: my word vs. yours
John Wieger is typing a message.
John Wieger: courts don't act on that
outlaw013: stop talking to me felon
outlaw013: 2nd time