Its time for the medics to make it happen.

[Necrogenesis]

I think the parachute compartment would be bulky, and the stretcher probably would not fit into the case....

The compartment is bulky; you were correct in assuming it would be two or three times larger than the jet pack. the stretcher fits inside the case because it is a telescoping design, the poles are collapsed during a jump sitting underneath the material for the parafoil, then extended when the strecher is needed.

it could be stored in the side compartments of the case and unfold and attach to the other side.

perhaps. in either case i have more drawings of the system that will make better sense to how it operates. will post when we RTB (hopefully tomorrow or thursday)

dude that thing is awesome i would definantly do the hp parafoil container thing...

thank you for the encouragement! as stated above the finished product is going to be rather large though, approximately 59" as scaled to my height of 72.5". It could be scaled down much further of course, but i actually intend to mount a parachute inside one eventually...

 

[visogoth]

So some history and realism. So in WWII, Korea and Vietnam, Corpsman and Medics wore the red cross. In the Korean war and Vietnam, when the enemy realized who the Corpsman and Medics were they were immediately targeted. The death of medical personnel was demoralizing and terrifying. Generally speaking Marines and Soldiers have a lot of respect for their medical personnel (if they are any good). Based on lessons learned from past wars and the fact we are fighting insurgents that target all uniformed military personnel, modern Corpsmen and Medics look exactly like the men they fight with and are now armed and engage to defend their brothers in arms, themselves and their patients. Combat stories are full of acts of bravery involving medical personnel. Many of the stories involve them running through open fire to save lives and move the wounded. In WWII one Marine wrote of his Corpsman (killed running through open fire to save Marines) "WHERE ANGELS AND MARINES FEAR TO TREAD, THERE YOU'LL FIND A CORPSMAN DEAD." So for maximum realism I would think an ODST Medic would carry additional medical pouches marked with the caduceus and an extra bag or slightly larger back pack. The Spartan Medic would be the similar. Regarding heavy lifting, in Halo 3, when MSGT Johnson thinks the Master Chief is dead he calls for heavy lift vs having the team try to move him. Also, the medic there either scans or jacks into Master Chief's armor to get the armor's status and Master Chief's status. Regarding dealing with jacked up Mjolnir armor - I don't have any great suggestions. Just my $0.10 cents worth (well more like $1.25 worth).

 

[Necrogenesis]

Just my $0.10 cents worth (well more like $1.25 worth).

20 bucks easy; If not for the efforts of 'Doc' (the face may be different but the name is universal), the world would be robbed of even more countless good men and women. Thank you Visogoth, well spoken.

 

[costumer99]

or the parachute thing can unfolded to be a stretcher

 

[Toacrabman]

What you could do is model the HP Parafoil carapiece, and then model a smaller case to hold the stretcher, which can either attach to the back of the case, or the chest piece. Remember that the HP parafoil chestpiece is covered by the chest piece add-on that contains the parafoil's handles, so it should fit under that to leave the handles accessible, and cover the stomach, like the HP Halo add-on.

 

[Necrogenesis]

or the parachute thing can unfolded to be a stretcher

give that man a cookie! yes, that is how i see it going down too, no reason to carry extra pieces..

What you could do is model the HP Parafoil carapiece, and then model a smaller case to hold the stretcher, which can either attach to the back of the case, or the chest piece.

I like the versitility your method creates; however, i intend to use the same mounting bracket for the stretcher and the parafoil, as 99 pointed out. I believe we should indeed make a modular piece that can fit inside the carapace (love that word btb) or to the front of the chest piece - just not for use with the stretcher.. perhaps we can put the tools you have identified in there for easy access?

Remember that the HP parafoil chestpiece is covered by the chest piece add-on that contains the parafoil's handles, so it should fit under that to leave the handles accessible, and cover the stomach, like the HP Halo add-on.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.. with that in mind i will begin construction of the chest/back piece(s) tonite (hopefully), then model the front cover and the carapace.. tried making a model of the carapace but need to render the backpiece first so they fit together perfectly...

 

[costumer99]

give that man a cookie! yes, that is how i see it going down too, no reason to carry extra pieces.

i can haz chocolate chip raisin cookie?

 

[Toacrabman]

I know i have a file for those little attachment points seen on teh HP parafoil chestpiece somewhere, if you could unfold and scale that to the parafoil carapace you could make the carapace actually attach to those points.
Im thinkin along the lines of this in models needed:

-Base chestpiece, already done by everyone and does not have to scale exactly.

-Hp Parafoil attachment points, Should be scaled exactly to the HP parafoil carapace.

- Front of Hp parafoil carapace, should be what anchors to the attachment points. Should have space recess inside to fit over knife on chest. Scaled to parafoil case.

-Hp parafoil carapace parafoil container. Should also be scaled to the Hp armor variant and front chest piece. Should have adjustable anchors to accomadate slight scale differences between chest pieces.

My thoughts are that the Parafoil case and the Chest attachment with the parafoil handles should be to scale with the attachment points, and the attachment points should be roughly eye-scale to the chest. That way the front chestpiece is fitted, and the Hp parafoil attachment points can be adjusted to make the torso compatable. Then the parafoil case's attachment points on the back are clamped down, (kind of like the jetpack's adjustable mounts.)

Edit: Found it. Still needs to be imported into pepakura. http://www.4shared.com/file/q0puG10n/HP_Parafiol_HP.html

 

[Necrogenesis]

Your the man Toa; wont RTB until saturday, but will continue brainstorming in the meantime.. honestly dont know how much of a help i will be to you in regards to the pepakura program at first, but when we are out of the field if you send me files to unfold i can learn how to do it..

i can haz chocolate chip raisin cookie?

lol. of course 99, i would like one too..

 

[costumer99]

......just so i know for the future, what does HP mean?

 

[Necrogenesis]

......just so i know for the future, what does HP mean?

HP means Hard Point; a MJOLNIR armor subtype specifically designed to work w/ parachutes and parafoils..

 

[costumer99]

oh,ill have to re-read the books and look for it

 

[Necrogenesis]

I dont think re-reading the books will get you very far, they arent mentioned very much. honestly google and the graphic novels are your best bet. Toa posted a link previously:

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Maria-062
Heres an article about Maria-062 who tested John-117's suit, with this parafoil being used as deployment.

its probably your best bet to begin searching. The name of the animal is officially G-25 PAS Airfoil Carapace, and can also be found in the halopedia, although the entry is very short. Other than that i have been going through bungie concept art and coming up very short.

The only image that pops up time and again is this one:

It is the only basis i have to begin modeling.

Not to be confused with the M-spec reentry pack:

which is too small to contain the parafoil/stretcher device.. or really anything at all. however, it is a nice alternative to building the larger carapace.

of course you could always say screw it and choose Master Chief's method for reentry:

Greatest burn-in EVER...

 

[costumer99]

lol i like the last picture, ill probably make the carapice out of cardboard but it will unfold into a stretcher because of the first picture it lookes like the top will unlatch and fold out for the feet. the sides.....will be the sides and the top wehre you unlatch it will have a fold out head stabilizer

 

[Toacrabman]

At this point, I can get a good Idea of what mt MK V build will end up as, and i gotta say, i like it!

Edit: I was trying to update some stuff and do some modeling, but we had a power surge (weekly here) and then my dog p****d the bed so im just going to go to my shop, lock the door, play really loud music, and do some work on my GUNGNIR.

 

[costumer99]

At this point, I can get a good Idea of what mt MK V build will end up as, and i gotta say, i like it!

Edit: I was trying to update some stuff and do some modeling, but we had a power surge (weekly here) and then my dog p****d the bed so im just going to go to my shop, lock the door, play really loud music, and do some work on my GUNGNIR.

a gungnir helmet would be a really good medic helm like, the eye circle thing on the front could be like an x-ray machine for surgeons

 

[Toacrabman]

I wouldnt say it has a narrow field of view as I found out if I put my eye to a hole barely the size of my eye I still get a 90% field of view. Not to mention all of the fancy camera stuff. Plus the GUNGNIR probably has some awesome zoom (as I am a great shot so im always the sniper) and that could help with some medical stuff. Not to mention it looks like it could take a hit.

It makes sense as a snipers helmet as well as the splazer operator. In Norse mythology GUNGNIR (swaying one) is Odin's spear, an infailiably accurate weapon, which reinforces this, and also, the GUNGNIR's appearance (having a tiny camera lens) also corresponds to the myth as Odin only has one eye.

Just another easter egg, The white stripe on the right side (probably to keep the helmet from being to stealthy when painted a dark color) has the symbol for Gungnir in it.

Just go to the wiki and read every article like I did (It will take a week)http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mk._V_G_variant

 

[Toacrabman]

Just found a relevant pic on another thread, showing the top of the carapace.

 

[costumer99]

I wouldnt say it has a narrow field of view as I found out if I put my eye to a hole barely the size of my eye I still get a 90% field of view. Not to mention all of the fancy camera stuff. Plus the GUNGNIR probably has some awesome zoom (as I am a great shot so im always the sniper) and that could help with some medical stuff. Not to mention it looks like it could take a hit.

...i never said GUNGNIR had a narrow field of view

 

[Toacrabman]

So who else likes explosions?