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No Problem, honestly just add that Patrick was trained with class one. Technically, He would have been added to the second class but there technically wasn't one, at least not by Halsey. If I do pick up writing the book, I can play with that a little. Nothing wrong with making stuff canon with the power of publishing.

That said, Any other people who want to, RED Team is more than one member, any spartan II or III can join. Would like to keep it around ten if possible.
 
Spartan Z-286: Zaff/Corey | Spartan-III (later joined S-IV program) || Lone wolf/specialist (not formally a part of any one team just yet) | Lt. Commander || New York

And copying the description used in the "Spartan Numbers" thread this originated from, and editing a bit to flesh out the story a little and make it a bit more canon-accurate: "a Spartan III originally who later joined into the Spartan IV program after returning as the sole survivor (or perhaps one of just a small number who made it back home if I come across others who want to join in on this particular branching of fan-based fiction) of an "espionage and sabotage" mission to Doisac, an attempt to halt or at least hinder the flow of Jiralhanae supplies, as well as learn as much as possible about the Brutes themselves (and a self-assigned "tertiary objective," to stockpile ammo for a personal favorite weapon: the Mauler)." At some point I hope to fully flesh out the back story as well as build at least some representation of the "evolution" of chosen armor progression.

Preferred UNSC-issued equipment includes" M6C/SOCOM automag, the SRS 99/99-S5, The M392 Designated Marksman Rifle, and the M319 Grenade Launcher. Preferred weapons from other factions: Brute Mauler (as stated previously), Gravity Hammer, Energy Sword, Needle Rifle, Carbine, Plasma Repeater, Light Rifle, Binary Rifle, and Incineration Cannon.
 
Also keep in mind almost all SIIIs died. Halo: Reach Spartans were bungie's screenplay writers acting a little too care free since it was their last halo. not like the rest. Just for future reference. They were suicide soldiers. only a few dozen survived, and of course there were a couple teams in training who might still be alive.
 
There are indeed about 2 full squads of S-IIIs alive, along with Halsey and a couple of S-IIs they are hidden somewhere, like, we literally have no idea where they went, there is no name mentioned in the books.
 
SPARTAN-551: Mike (Harri51) | Spartan-II Class-II || Special Projects: //Classified// | Rank: Lieutenant Commander || New Alexanderia

Just forget the bio then. I like being a Spartan-II namely; just set that way in all of my halo bio minus one set to just Spartan-III
 
@ Those who are keen on the stories / read the books / or just want to share your thoughts...

I need your assistance, knowledge, and opinions.
Please try to answer and share your opinion on each of the points to the best of your ability.
I ask these questions in order to try and improve the list.

1st, how many companies of Spartan-IIIs existed that we know of? (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, ....?)
2nd, is it possible that there were more?
- - I mean, by means of coming up with a new story behind other companies as to why they had remained unheard of, we could make things work, but my main question is, does the story leave it open to the fact that there could have been more than 3 companies or does it strictly say somewhere that there was only 3?

3rd, Does anyone know what squads Rosenda-344 and Thom-293 belonged to? The wiki pages don't have much on their details at all. I thought they were Beta squad at first since I found them after navigating through Beta squad, but I don't think they were actually a part of that squad. More interestingly, is how they are referred to. That is not how you denote a Spartan-III, that's how you denote a Spartan-II.
I currently have them listed under squad unknown at the bottom of the Spartan-III list.

4th, assuming that we will include Spartan-III squads beyond Gamma, I think we could de-list/skip some of them, but I would REALLY appreciate the input of others on the matter.
• I've already eliminated Sigma squad as to avoid confusing with the Spartan-IIs.
• Neither Ksi ("zai"/"sai") nor Psi ("sai"/"p-sai") have no modern letters associated with them.
• Theta, in modern English, is a combination of the letters "th", and since it is more of a sound rather than a single letter, I don't know whether or not it should stay. Then again, Gamma (hell, I pronounce it Zjshamma") doesn't have a modern equivalent to a single letter either, and obviously Gamma is staying.
• Omicron and Omega each represent the letter "O", so keeping both of them would be redundant.
• Eta, Iota, and Upsilon are all essentially considered to be a "Close front unrounded vowel" which basically means all of them are the letter "I". So there is also the redundancy there.

Known (Canon) Spartan-III Squads/Companies:
Α Β Γ

Full Greek Alphabet:
Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι K Λ M N Ξ Ο Π Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω

Currently Used in List:
Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι K Λ M N Ξ Ο Π Ρ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω (Σ removed)

Option for Possible Reduced list:
Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Θ Ι K Λ M N Ο Π Ρ Τ Φ Χ (Σ H Ξ Y Ψ Ω removed)

In order of the English Alphabet (showing just for clarity purposes), the above becomes:
Α Β Δ Ε Φ Γ Ι K Λ M N Ο Π Ρ Τ Χ Ζ (Θ)
Which leaves out: C H J Q S U V W Y from the English Alphabet.

I kept Theta in, thinking that it could probably be used for all the letters of the English Alphabet that are left out. Alternatively, Theta could be the "Lone Wolf" Squad, or even a mix between Lone Wolves and those that haven't found a particular squad to be in.

Obviously, I'm open to more possible options besides just what I have above, but I thought I'd share my own solution.

5th, should we allow Spartan-IIs or Spartan-IIIs to have numbers exceeding 999?
 
1st, how many companies of Spartan-IIIs existed that we know of? (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, ....?)
Impossibe to tell because we never got a solid timefram for training but I think the 4th company was being trained when the sentinels attacked.
2nd, is it possible that there were more?
- - I mean, by means of coming up with a new story behind other companies as to why they had remained unheard of, we could make things work, but my main question is, does the story leave it open to the fact that there could have been more than 3 companies or does it strictly say somewhere that there was only 3?
Again, a 4th was being trained but most of them are presummed dead. The reason spartan IIIs are unheard of is because they are suicide soldiers. They train, get augmented, then die. The only non grunt SIII would be a few squads removed possibly for special ops (like nobel team: keep in mind mark v armor is the only mjolnir armor designed for SIIIs, almost all of them used SPI armor (active camo) and only two spartans remained alive from Beta company (Tom and Lucy)

3rd, Does anyone know what squads Rosenda-344 and Thom-293 belonged to? The wiki pages don't have much on their details at all. I thought they were Beta squad at first since I found them after navigating through Beta squad, but I don't think they were actually a part of that squad. More interestingly, is how they are referred to. That is not how you denote a Spartan-III, that's how you denote a Spartan-II.
I currently have them listed under squad unknown at the bottom of the Spartan-III list.

Never heard of 'em. Apparently they were cut characters from halo: Reach which as it is not very canon.




As for more spartan III squads, its good but keep in mind they were canon foder. Cheap suicide soldiers. Not badasses like in Reach. Infact, they were still very young. Their parents were murdered in covenant invasions, and they were broken as can be. Also, if we keep it canon, we need to come up with a backstory for a class II of spartan IIs because halsey and mendex definitley weren't in on it.
 
There are indeed about 2 full squads of S-IIIs alive, along with Halsey and a couple of S-IIs they are hidden somewhere, like, we literally have no idea where they went, there is no name mentioned in the books.

You're talking about the SPARTAN-II and -III's that Halsey took with her at the end of Ghosts of Onyx, right? We do know where they went and who they took. When the shield world Onyx activated, it opened access to the Dyson sphere within it, later renamed the Trevelyan Sphere. Survivors included Dr. Halsey, Chief Mendez, Kelly-087, Fred-104, Linda-058, Tom-B292, Lucy-B091, Olivia, Ash-G099, Mark and the 5 members of Katana Squad frozen in their individual slipspace pods. They were eventually recovered by Kilo-5 in 2553.


1st
, how many companies of Spartan-IIIs existed that we know of? (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, ....?)
2nd, is it possible that there were more?
- - I mean, by means of coming up with a new story behind other companies as to why they had remained unheard of, we could make things work, but my main question is, does the story leave it open to the fact that there could have been more than 3 companies or does it strictly say somewhere that there was only 3?

Only 3 companies of SPARTAN-III's ever existed. Alpha and Bravo had already been trained, used and eradicated through their suicide missions. Gamma company was undergoing the final stages of training in 2552 when the Covenant attacked Onyx. After the end of the Great War, ONI no longer had a justifiable reason to continue taking and training children, prompting the public SPARTAN-IV program that only recruited candidates over the age of 18 and had several years of frontline experience in other UNSC branches (much like the ODST program).

However, the SPARTAN-III project was continuous, unlike the SPARTAN-II's who only ever got the green light for 1 class. If the Covenant hadn't attacked Onyx and the war had continued, there could have been more SPARTAN-III's.

3rd, Does anyone know what squads Rosenda-344 and Thom-293 belonged to?

Not a clue.

4th, assuming that we will include Spartan-III squads beyond Gamma, I think we could de-list/skip some of them, but I would REALLY appreciate the input of others on the matter.

I'd only go out to Delta and Epsilon companies for the SPARTAN-III's. It provides room for another 700 or so names, but that's just my opinion. However, I do like your idea of keeping around a Theta squad as sort-of a lone wolf and random squad.

5th, should we allow Spartan-IIs or Spartan-IIIs to have numbers exceeding 999?
I don't believe we should. SPARTAN-II candidate lists were a maximum of 150 names. SPARTAN-III's candidate lists were longer, since the goal was to have a company of 300. However, I don't think the lists ever exceeded 350. Also, going over a 3-digit number would ruin their numbering system. Numbers over 999 should only apply to SPARTAN-IV's, since they are a new, and growing, branch of the UNSC. That's why they have serial numbers instead of more traditional SPARTAN numbers. Don't forget, they're also the only SPARTANs to keep their full name, too.
 
1. There were only 3 companies of S-IIIs, the third was in training and only 2 teams survived, Saber and Katana as well as Kurt and S-IIIs Tom and Lucy from Beta Company

2. It is not possible that there were more trained, atleast not by Kurt and not on Onyx.

3. I believe they were in Alpha Company, I remember reading about them dying.

5. Unless they are within an experimental program, I don't believe we should as there were only 32 successful S-IIs in service and approx 350 S-IIIs that were trained/being trained.
 
The other Spartans of Gamma company are not dead, they are just on deployment, the two teams in Ghosts of Onyx remain on Onyx to compete for top honours.
As for Thom, no one really knows which company he was in, as Thom dies before the events of Halo Reach.
 
The other Spartans of Gamma company are not dead, they are just on deployment, the two teams in Ghosts of Onyx remain on Onyx to compete for top honours.

Gamma Company were in training, Saber and Katana were the top two teams and they were competing for top honours before the Sentinels attacked and they had to stop, fight and so everything, also, I just remembered that Kelly was with them as well as Halsey.
 
While I can't really pull specific references at the moment I had the impression that Spartan IIIs were basically the "government sanctioned, mass-produced" Spartans. While Halsey was very selective and specific and went for quality over quality, ONI/UNSC took the approach of "overwhelm with sheer numbers" with their Spartan III program. As AI mentioned, they were essentially "suicide soldiers" in that they were thrown up against heavily fortified targets and deployed into hostile territory en masse to basically swarm the Covenant and, if necessary, bury them under a mountain of dead Spartans.

And again, while I can't put a finger on a specific reference I can't help thinking I had read that Onyx was not the only planet Spartan IIIs were being trained on, nor was that group (or groups) the only ones in existence. They just happened to be the ones being focused on for that particular storyline. I was likewise under the impression that many of the Spartan IVs were former Spartan IIIs (including Jun, who as I recall helped locate and recruit these other Spartans, as well other potential candidates).

And let's not forget two very key elements here: the unknown, and the assumed. In times of war nobody really has the luxury of keeping tabs on every single person around. It's entirely possible for ships to go down, bases to be attacked, and other such scenarios in which it seems "all hands are lost," but there could still be survivors who had not the means to communicate or travel right away. And, perhaps, once they did have said means, it's understandable if their first thought was not "hey, let's go racing back to the institution that left us for dead without sufficiently searching for survivors."
 
Okay, so from the recent discussion, I have taken the names from the previous list that had their Spartan numbers over the value of 999, and I've moved them to the experimental list.

3. I believe they were in Alpha Company, I remember reading about them dying.
I am noting this, but I would like a confirmation from someone else just to be sure, at least for Rosenda-344.


I'd only go out to Delta and Epsilon companies for the SPARTAN-III's. It provides room for another 700 or so names, but that's just my opinion. However, I do like your idea of keeping around a Theta squad as sort-of a lone wolf and random squad.

I like this response. In fact, I enjoyed all the responses relating to possible squads we don't know of that could possibly exist. I especially also liked the statement that we really only knew about the squads on Onyx.
Not sure if I'm going to drop all those letters immediately, but like I said, I am interested in reducing them.
But I do think I will change the list from:
Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι K Λ M N Ξ Ο Π Ρ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω
to:
Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Θ Ω

I think that for Α Β Γ Δ, almost no additional information is needed, those are solid and in place.
A - we know this existed
B - we know this existed
Γ - we know they were being trained
Δ - we can assume that this was started, whether it was on onyx or not.


For Δ (Delta), I suggest that we say that it was Halsey affiliated, however, we could come up with a planet that the company was being trained on other than Onyx.
It needs to be a known planet in the universe that was occupied by modern humans (at least before getting wiped out by Covenant forces), and it needs to have not been attacked before Onyx was.
Any suggestions?
I would love to hear some reasoning behind what planet(s) get chosen :)


As for E (Epsilon), Z (Zeta), Θ (Theta), and Ω (Omega), I would appreciate suggestions for grouping those who do not specify their squad, yet use a value in their name that is not A/B/G/D. That way I'll have an easier time sorting them.
(...and yes, omega was too cool to get thrown under the bus lol)

The most simple system I can think of is splitting E and Z 50/50, and giving each around 10 Letters of the remaining 21 in the English alphabet.
E = C, E, F, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O (11)
Z = P, Q, R, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z (10)
Then, We can reserve Θ for special operations and Ω for lone wolf stuff or something. Idk...
Maybe keeping both is redundant.... :confused


Oh, and I know that I've used Squad/Company interchangeably, as I have seen it used as such on the wiki/wikia, so I believe it to be correct, and as such, I will be keeping it this way.
Now, while I am keeping it this way, for those who listed themselves as "Squad Leader", I will be changing it to "Team Leader" now that we have a new organizational system. :)


As of right now, all the changes have taken place, with the exception of the Spartan-IIIs being sorted.
I'm definitely liking the shorter list, and it will definitely prolong reaching the character limit for the post now that all the extra Squads have been removed.
 
I think the key thing to remember here is the books don't tell us everything. It's a big universe, and you have to bear in mind that the people and establishments we do know (specifically Halsey, the UNSC, and ONI) are well known for under the table dealings, behind the curtains projects, and, well, secrets in general. Secrets that can include (but certainly would not be limited to) there being many more Spartans in existence than has been made known to the public. The possibility of there being more classes, more squads/teams, and more training facilities than the books have mentioned is certainly not a wildly improbable one.
 
Mostly because I'm currently building and roleplaying as this Spartan elsewhere.

S-129: Aideen (PhoenixArmoury) | Spartan-II, Class-I || 17th Shock Troops Battalion (Inactive) || Chief Petty Officer || Ottawa, ON, Canada
 
• Added both of you.
• Switched some of those who were listed in the experimental spartan category over to the Spartan-III category since they now have a spot to be categorized.

I've also been working on my personal bio. I could not update my original one due to going over the character limit by a lot.
So instead, I have cleverly added a link to the full version at the very bottom of my post.
It is a completely revamped, altered, and upgraded version.
 
I had no idea that putting a letter in front of the service number denoted a specific fireteam. If the OP can change this, that would be awesome.

SPARTAN-057: Andrew (Frozensnot) | Spartan-II Class-I || NavSpecWar | Petty Officer, second class || WA
 
To expand on my current number.

Z-236, Grim(renton117), S-III^(IV) fire team serenity, Australia

I'm aware the S-III did not have fire teams, the fire team stated is my team after beig inducted into the S-IV project
 
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