Aqua Resin, Non-toxic Resin

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I did make some more progress tonight, I got stuck on DMC4, so I took a break and did one coat of resin on the inside of the helmet and completely coated the outside. Now all that's left is fiberglassing the inside, gonna try out the veil fiberglass to see how much more strength it adds and then move on to the BONdo-like tests and sanding tests. It maybe next week til I can get to that since my weekend is full :)
 
veil fiberglass? is that the special glass, made for the aqua resin, or a normal glass just woven differently like mat, and cloth? cant wait to see your progress. i dont know where this thread would be with out you.
 
rachciav said:
veil fiberglass? is that the special glass, made for the aqua resin, or a normal glass just woven differently like mat, and cloth? cant wait to see your progress. i dont know where this thread would be with out you.

It's a special spider web-like fiberglass mat that comes in 3 thicknesses in the starter kit. You soak it in water, wring it out, let it dry, and it's able to "drape" better to a form. I may do another DMC break and fiberglass the inside tonight.

Though one thing I noticed, my throat geats a bit scratchy as I use this stuff, and I didn't inhale any powders, could just be a minor irritation. Guess I'll have to see if anyone else experiences the same thing. It goes away though, and there are no headahces, difficulty breathing or anything of that nature. It happened last time too, and I wore a mask most of the time.
 
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Skullcandy Girl said:
Though one thing I noticed, my throat geats a bit scratchy as I use this stuff, and I didn't inhale any powders, could just be a minor irritation. Guess I'll have to see if anyone else experiences the same thing. It goes away though, and there are no headahces, difficulty breathing or anything of that nature. It happened last time too, and I wore a mask most of the time.


Most likely it's because of fine airborne particulates... I noticed in the instructions on my kit that it said to use a respirator when handling the powder. I figured it's still safer than other resins though..

Any dust is bad. No matter how careful you are when mixing, a little always ends up in the air. I'd recommend using at the very least a decent dust mask when mixing the powder and liquid together... should be safe after mixing though according to the manufacturer.
 
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I spray paint all the time in side, i get a bit sick after being with the stuff for an hour but nothing to serious... and i still have a 3.8gpa. :)
good job this looks easy and good for someone who doesnt want to spend a lot of buy a ventilating system. Thanks.


rachciav said:
wow this stuff must be really popular! i hope i can get some soon. im asking my parents for it for my birthday coming up.

Hhahaha

You: Mommmm, Dadddddd for my birthday can i have 12 oz's of aqua resin and the aqua resin started kit.... and mayyyyyybe some extra fiberglass strips..... PLEASEEEEE
Parents: Oh... i thought you wanted the football.... ok you can have it.
You: Thanks mommy and daddy... :)

Haha.
 
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Sean Bradley said:
Most likely it's because of fine airborne particulates... I noticed in the instructions on my kit that it said to use a respirator when handling the powder. I figured it's still safer than other resins though..

Any dust is bad. No matter how careful you are when mixing, a little always ends up in the air. I'd recommend using at the very least a decent dust mask when mixing the powder and liquid together... should be safe after mixing though according to the manufacturer.

Yeah I didn't close the powder bag entirely after I mixed everything... duh on me XD That probably exlpains why even after mixing and wearing a mask it bugged my throat.

Yeah the stuff is good since it won't give you cancer in 20 years, and you can use it inside :D, which is why ya don't inhale Spray Paints and toxic Resin.
 
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SpartanForever said:
You: Mommmm, Dadddddd for my birthday can i have 12 oz's of aqua resin and the aqua resin started kit.... and mayyyyyybe some extra fiberglass strips..... PLEASEEEEE
Parents: Oh... i thought you wanted the football.... ok you can have it.
You: Thanks mommy and daddy... :)

Haha.

you think my birthday wish list is strange, you should've seen my xmas list :lol: i had everythink from a tactical vest, to snowpants. and i dont think im ever gonna want a football since im a girl, unless you mean like the british football, like soccor, in that case i havent played "football" since i was like 12! go geeks!

anyway......back on topic....so the fiberglass veil is like a thinner spiderwebby thing that you dont cut to strips?
 
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I'll be doing my test with this material shortly Skullcandy, I've decided to put together a few Pep helmets to test it out on. While I'm at it I'm going to test a few other processes and materials.

Sorry for the delay, but you seem to be doing just fine with it. Excellent progress!
 
Sean Bradley said:
I'll be doing my test with this material shortly Skullcandy, I've decided to put together a few Pep helmets to test it out on. While I'm at it I'm going to test a few other processes and materials.

Sorry for the delay, but you seem to be doing just fine with it. Excellent progress!

No worries Sean :) It's good to have different approaches, we'll be able to find new techniques and uses :D I'm excited to see what you find out and come up with :)

@Rachiav: Ah I think you're wish list is normal for a creatively inclined person :D
 
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skullcandy girl: ha ha yea i suppose so.

and i cant wait for more updates. im going to be getting my trial kit soon.
 
Sean Bradley said:
I'll be doing my test with this material shortly Skullcandy, I've decided to put together a few Pep helmets to test it out on. While I'm at it I'm going to test a few other processes and materials.

Sorry for the delay, but you seem to be doing just fine with it. Excellent progress!
Dont forget, there is always the frost hot glue method + skullcandy aqua resin method combo.
 
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AoBfrost said:
Team work is truly amazing. Hot glue and resin together at last!
I was thinking of using a spray adhesive. Whats your thoughts on this frost? I figured instead of spending the time brushing on hot glue I could just get some 3m spray adhesive to reinforce everything.
 
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I know the question was directed to Frost, though what I've noticed, the hot glue dried with thickness and is pretty rigid when it dries, so it helped ensure some support. I used the 3M spray a lot to mount artwork to matte, it didn't add any rigidness, and I used it because it ensured I would have no wrinkles in my paper. I also worry about the toxicity, as hot glue doesn't have any, the 3M stuff is kinda dangerous.
 
Spray adhesive really thick will be brittle and still be toxic. Plus, the cost to coat an entire suit inside, it isnt worth it.
 
SO my helmet is about 60% fiberglassed. A note I'm abbreviating Aqua Resin to A.R., it's late here and I'm exauhsted *thud*

Some notes on Aqua resin Fiberglass:
You can wet the Fiberglass Viel before you use it so it "drapes" better. If you let it fully dry, with water only it dries rigid. Also it loosens the fiberglass strangs, I was foolish nough to pick it up with out gloves and I got a small splinter in my thumb, and this crap hurts when ya yank it out of your fingers and I may even have some tiny strands still in my thumb.

I recommend NOT soaking the Veil in water it prior to use. Why? When you wet it, it becomes like a spider web, it's very easy to stretch and pull and it's hard to handle when wet. This can be a good thing when it's wet with AR, but not when you're trying to cut it into small strips, so leave it as it is.

For those asking who haven't made it this far, you ONLY fiberglass the inside of the helmet. You'll loose detail and maybe add unnecessary extra weight to your helmet if you fiberglass the outside and inside. It adds a good amount of weight since you need to thorough coat the fiberglass as you affix it to the inside of your helmet. When you get this stuff heavily coated with the A.R. it's very pliable and a bit stretchy, it's almost like plaster strips. This stuff SUCKS UP A.R. FAST! I used 3 parts of the liquid to 6 parts of the powder to make enough A.R. so I could thoroughly coat the FG strips to get the jaw, sides, strip on the crown, and a supprt strip in th back, I still have to do the brim, crown and back of the helmet. This also cured FAST, it's smooth it took about an hour and that was it and it's SOLID as a rock.

This is where it gets extremely messy (for me anyhow). Now what I did to ensure my fiberglass was heavily coated,(and this is what I tried, it may no be the best way, and there are probably easier ways, I couldn't think of anything else that could have worked for me). First, I quickly did a light coating of A.R.the area I was about to fiberglass, I then quickly dipped or brushed A.R. to both side of the Veil, got rid of most of the excess ,and I then pressed it to the area I had previously glazed to make sure it had something to stick to, I have tiny hands so I was able to smooth it out with my fingers, and this stuff can get stringy and want to stick to the brush as you try to dab it down with my brush or fingers and made sure there were no air pockets as I smoothed down the veil. It was very easy to shape it in the helmet, it was seriously like a spider-web once it was wetted with A.R. I also made sure to cut the strips to the sizes I needed, and this is why you don't wet the veil before you use it. My brush I used was covered in A.R. it washed right off the brush but the handle got owned. I also have some tiny strands to cut off, but they aren't like death spikes of resin doom, just like little hairs and as flimsy as hair.

A.R. cleans up very very well and easily. Now good old stupid me, if it had been normal resin, aside from killing everyone else in my building, I would have ruined my jeans, but with some water and some light scrubbing, the A.R. came right out, no stains or color loss and I did it with in 30 minutes. So it had cured, but if you get to it before 24 hours the A.R. should come right out. I also wish I had snaded my helmet a bit since the extra unsanded A.R. was coming off... kinda stinks getting tiny little A.R. bits into my curing fiberglass, you can see afew of the little chunks in the pics. My scissors were also covered in A.R. and it also came right off with some scrubbing and water.

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Yes those are my Chuck Taylors
Yes my helmet is unsanded and lookin' busted, it'll be pretty and sanded when I can open a window... this is for science or something :D

Happy glassing, I'm going to go nighty night *thud*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
*sniffle* the sight of freshly glassed helmets brings a tear to my eye *sniffle*
its so pretty! cant wait to see it sanded. just wondering what you're going to do about the holes in the back? are you going to try adding more powerer to a mixture to make that bondo-like stuff?
 
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