Jorge Project - Decreasing noob level.

[Trooper114]

I'm working the that way to. Got my helmet and chest piece done, i also got a idea or two about attaching those pieces. The one im going for right now is attaching those pieces to the chest piece like shoulder pads on a set of football pads or hockey pads.

 

[Britannicus]

I'm working the that way to. Got my helmet and chest piece done, i also got a idea or two about attaching those pieces. The one im going for right now is attaching those pieces to the chest piece like shoulder pads on a set of football pads or hockey pads.

Nice man, look forward to the pics.

 

[Britannicus]

Alright little update. Got the shoulder pieces coated with their first layer of resin, so they are holding their shape now. Had to do another layer of Rondo inside the helmet. There were too many gaps and the rim of the helmet entrance was super weak, but that's fixed now...and my helmet is heavy. Ah well! Dremmeled down the loose drips of resin of and smoothed some of the edges. Primed inside and out to seal that smell from the rondo, it was still giving off vapors. So it should be good once the primer dries. Next step will be to start bondoing the helm. Going to take my time doing this, first time with this stuff.

Oh also, got a new respirator. Found out some interesting info from my friend who works at a body shop. He said the only filters that give the best protection from organic vapor and particulates are two stage filters. This new respirator was a chemical/paint one. Came with an almost cotton bud second layer that sits on the outside of the cartridge. Works much better, I wasn't getting hit by the fumes.

 

[Kommissar]

Alright, shoulder blast shield pepped. It's about as big as it can go without being unwieldy. I've got to redo the previous shoulder as it was a touch too small. But here we are, little more progress.

EDIT: I think that I will have to end up adding on some extra padding or the like to make the blast shield work with the chest piece. Otherwise they will keep smacking into each other when I move. I believe that it is set slightly raised from the upper arm piece, so experimentation with padding will occur down the road I'm sure.

the unfortunate thing with jorge in the game is that his armor is often clipping through itself, which makes your project quite abit more difficult.
have you noticed how his shoulder armor is floating like three inches off his arm? i'd suggest a block or column of soft foam in the inside of the plate, centered to your arm, and attached by a velcro strap off the main chest piece.

 

[Britannicus]

the unfortunate thing with jorge in the game is that his armor is often clipping through itself, which makes your project quite abit more difficult.
have you noticed how his shoulder armor is floating like three inches off his arm? i'd suggest a block or column of soft foam in the inside of the plate, centered to your arm, and attached by a velcro strap off the main chest piece.

Yeah, the attachments are going to be a pain. They are sitting a ways off the upper arm piece I agree. It's going to be fun to figure out how best to sort that out so I don't smash into the chest piece by merely flailing my arms.

 

[xanzx]

Looks like your armor is coming along nicely, keep it up! It looks really impressive mate!

 

[Trooper114]

Nice job, and Komissar gots a good point, those attachment are a pain. I asked FoolyCoolyMan how he did his and he said that he just rondoed, or maybe bondoed, the attachmants right on cause of time, i'm still trying to figure out how to attach those, now that i notice, my whole football/hockey shoulder pad idea ain't gona work. but that block idea is good, maybe 1 or 2 blocks of that soft foam can work, and since it is soft, the shoulder pads can move like in the game, but hopefully not to much. :confused

 

[AssassiN]

wow man its looking great im actully pretty new like about 1-2 hours new and am really thinking about making jorge as well are their any tips you guys would give a newbie jorge maker

 

[AssassiN]

and also what do i use to put the foled card stock together a glue stick or somthin?

 

[Road Kill]

hey nice work so far and you get that stuff finished pretty fast, i am so slow at peping stuff out because of school and i am so slow that i started in March and i still haven't finished anything i haven't even put rondo on anything yet but nice build man and good luck

 

[Britannicus]

Nice job, and Komissar gots a good point, those attachment are a pain. I asked FoolyCoolyMan how he did his and he said that he just rondoed, or maybe bondoed, the attachmants right on cause of time, i'm still trying to figure out how to attach those, now that i notice, my whole football/hockey shoulder pad idea ain't gona work. but that block idea is good, maybe 1 or 2 blocks of that soft foam can work, and since it is soft, the shoulder pads can move like in the game, but hopefully not to much. :confused

Well I'm not worrying about it just yet. I'll get the pieces made and to my liking before I worry about padding. That's going to be a whole separate affair along with the strapping and the body suit. It's a pain enough doing all the resin stuff, but it's a fun experience. Forever planning

wow man its looking great im actully pretty new like about 1-2 hours new and am really thinking about making jorge as well are their any tips you guys would give a newbie jorge maker

I'm a noob myself buddy. Best advice I can give you is read and read AND read. There's a wealth of information on the forums here. Read all the stickies. If you get stuck and you honestly can't find an anwser, just post a question. No one can critisize you for asking for help, as long as it's not a question that's been asked a million times. To respond to your second post. It's 110lb card stock, printed out using pepakura designer. Cut with an exacto knife and then folded and stuck together with a hot glue gun.

hey nice work so far and you get that stuff finished pretty fast, i am so slow at peping stuff out because of school and i am so slow that i started in March and i still haven't finished anything i haven't even put rondo on anything yet but nice build man and good luck

Thanks man! I'm just doing this in my spare time. I get tunnel visioned after work so I tend to focus on pumping out at least a piece. I've already had scaling issues. On fore arm #2 and shoulders #2 for both sides. Just takes practice getting it right, which sucks!

 

[AssassiN]

ok man will do and thanks alot about the pepping i just wasent quite sure but yea man its looking great once i get started i will make a thread and do some updates thakns again

 

[Britannicus]

Alrighty, the bondo has begun. This stuff is very interesting stuff to work with. I found it's actually to my benefit to do this when it is slightly cooler as it doesn't set as rapidly. I have a heater I am using to kick start the curing when the temperature is lower. When it warmed up I had to work fast. Applied several thin layers to the back of the helmet. Started to add some filler to the front also, but time is against me today, so I stopped short as I have to go to work shortly.

Using a Black and decker mouse sander for the larger areas, and it works amazingly. But I think I need spot filler for some of the gaps in the bondo.

 

[Britannicus]

I've finished the first round of bondo. SOOOO much extra sanding and detail left. I've got to build some parts back up on the top of the helmet where it had warped slightly. I think I need spot filler for all the gaps in the bondo, so if anyone knows how to smooth out these pits, please let me know.

The visor is slowly getting cleaned up. Taking my time dremelling the edge so it's the same on both sides. Just taking forever. I'm going to do a smoothing layer to get all these rough spots gone, if anyone has any tips, please feel free to share. I'd appreciate it.

So much to go on this helmet. Arrrgh. Wish I had more days off

 

[Kamaro]

Very good progress. I love Jorge's helmet, make the best out of it!

 

[JUSTINIAN 117]

It looks good so far. I would suggest getting the entire thing smooth, and then go back and cut the detail in it. Build up the Bondo, and use the electric sander to smooth it down, and then use the dremel to get the smaller details. Then there might be some small holes, just use Bondo glazing and spot putty to fill them in. It doesn't require any mixing, just squeeze it out of the tube, and fill a hole, and go a little over, so it can be sanded down. It is a little bit softer than Bondo, so it should be lightly sanded by hand, and then it should be ready for primer. You may have to go back and fill in some other holes, or you can keep it a little rough, and make it look like battle damage.

 

[Britannicus]

It looks good so far. I would suggest getting the entire thing smooth, and then go back and cut the detail in it. Build up the Bondo, and use the electric sander to smooth it down, and then use the dremel to get the smaller details. Then there might be some small holes, just use Bondo glazing and spot putty to fill them in. It doesn't require any mixing, just squeeze it out of the tube, and fill a hole, and go a little over, so it can be sanded down. It is a little bit softer than Bondo, so it should be lightly sanded by hand, and then it should be ready for primer. You may have to go back and fill in some other holes, or you can keep it a little rough, and make it look like battle damage.

Yeah, I love and hate my camera at the same time. Nice and high mexapixels...but shows all the parts where I haven't sanded and detailed enough lol. The spot putty is going to be my next purchase once to fill in the holes for sure! Thanks for the tip. I think I want this helmet to be nice and smooth, the paint weathering later can be battle damage. - I just want to take a shot of this guy and see little to no imperfections on the surface. This stage alone has taken me well over 10 hours of sanding and bondo, I'm sure there's enough 20 or so left before I'm ready to cut out the visor.

 

[JUSTINIAN 117]

It is risky but if you would like to shave your sanding time down, get some rough grit sandpaper (60 grit) and get the basic shape of it right. Then do a few more layers of Bondo, and shape it again. Then go back with finer sandpaper (120 grit) and do the finer sanding / smoothing. It is risky because if you aren't carefull, it will sand way to fast. But it does greatly help with time. Also the Spot Putty only works well with very tiny holes, for larger holes it will take too long to dry, so you should fill those in with bondo, and by the time you do that and sand it smooth the spot putty wouldn't have been dry yet. But use it on the small holes.

 

[tmccarty23]

Awesome helmet. I love Jorge's armor and I think that is what I will do once my ODST suit is done. You've done a fine job in capturing the look. Keep it up.

 

[Britannicus]

Alright, managed to be super productive today. Got Jorge's first shin pepped. This thing is MASSIVE. However, it's scaled right and looks good on my leg I think. Let me know what you think guys. I wasn't wearing shoes, but I think there is enough space to added in the pepped boots when I get to that stage.

The top part is extremely flimsy but rest assured it's not warped, just held it an angle whilst I took a pic.

This is Rhinoc's pep file for those that want to build it. I think the pep file looks perfect.