Legendary Armor - MA5C Assault Rifle

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I told you...the paint job it difficult since it's multiple layers and they need to bleed over each other. It's like trying to duplicate a Sh!t stain in a diaper identically.
 
O.O OMG ive seen some nice stuff on here but.......... WOW i love it cant wait to see when its done< and what company do you work for?
 
We worked on the Top shroud a bit to put in some of the details...It is not the easiest piece to duplicate due to the pretty poor game pics...Certain shapes and proportions are very difficult to capture...this part has been much more time cosuming than anticipated.


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haha ya thats another reason why the 501st has so many full costumed members, they dont have to make there suits based off of a video game and its screen captures. But yes your doing excellent.
 
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Xavier said:
your doing great!

Thank you!!!!


SpartanForever said:
haha ya thats another reason why the 501st has so many full costumed members, they dont have to make there suits based off of a video game and its screen captures. But yes your doing excellent.

...LoL...I understand what you are saying but by the same token they probably have more Quality clones then we have Quality Spartans...and those were CGI...it is just a matter of having proper resources, dedication, and the ability to translate it into reality...

...and thank you :)
 
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SpartanForever said:
haha ya thats another reason why the 501st has so many full costumed members, they dont have to make there suits based off of a video game and its screen captures. But yes your doing excellent.

I beg to differ!

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I haven't been into one of these WIP threads that Legendary Armor has posted a few of in quite some time (last one I'd followed for a bit was thier Mk VI helmet, and that was earlier on in its development).

Bishop, Slave... what can I say that hasn't already been said here? You guys have really done some awe-inspiring work on this project, as with your other HALO-related projects.

Seeing this level of skill and attention to detail/accuracy is a very welcome sight indeed, though I have to admit seeing the phenomenal work you guys have done kinda makes me wonder if I should even bother continuing with my own efforts, LOL.

Just kidding! I wouldn't want to stop now, considering what time and resources I have already put in. Besides, I love this hobby; making props by hand is why I do what I do.

I will say this: you guys are at a level I hope to achieve in terms of prop work, and so gives me further incentive to improve my own skills.

Though I'm clearly not as skilled (yet *wink*) as you fellas, having been in the general prop hobby for the last seven years I'd like to think my abilities have improved somewhat. As such, I hope to at least make "decent" replicas of both the armour and the AR for my own collection.

Given my affinity for prop building I would like to one day be in a similar place of employment (that'd be a dream come true for me, to be honest, working among other skilled craftsment in a reputable prop house).

In that respect, I have a question or two to ask you gentlemen, if you don't mind.

Just what exactly is the material you're using for this scratch-build? It looks a bit like wood, but the surface is clearly too smooth and devoid of any imperfections (ie. knots, etc.) normally present in wood.

I'm trying to branch out in terms of materials, techniques and tools used in my own prop building, and although expensive (as previously stated by Slave) I would like to try my hand at using this material myself, perhaps for a smaller-scale prop to start... :cool:
 
Well, the material we use is called Renshape. It has a similar consistency to Bondo but is less chewy. It is primarily used for prototyping. A 16"x40"x2" board is about $650.00. This rifle uses about 65% of a board to make....
 
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I haven't been into one of these WIP threads that Legendary Armor has posted a few of in quite some time (last one I'd followed for a bit was thier Mk VI helmet, and that was earlier on in its development).

Bishop, Slave... what can I say that hasn't already been said here? You guys have really done some awe-inspiring work on this project, as with your other HALO-related projects.

Seeing this level of skill and attention to detail/accuracy is a very welcome sight indeed, though I have to admit seeing the phenomenal work you guys have done kinda makes me wonder if I should even bother continuing with my own efforts, LOL.

Just kidding! I wouldn't want to stop now, considering what time and resources I have already put in. Besides, I love this hobby; making props by hand is why I do what I do.

I will say this: you guys are at a level I hope to achieve in terms of prop work, and so gives me further incentive to improve my own skills.

Though I'm clearly not as skilled (yet *wink*) as you fellas, having been in the general prop hobby for the last seven years I'd like to think my abilities have improved somewhat. As such, I hope to at least make "decent" replicas of both the armour and the AR for my own collection.

Given my affinity for prop building I would like to one day be in a similar place of employment (that'd be a dream come true for me, to be honest, working among other skilled craftsment in a reputable prop house).

In that respect, I have a question or two to ask you gentlemen, if you don't mind.

Just what exactly is the material you're using for this scratch-build? It looks a bit like wood, but the surface is clearly too smooth and devoid of any imperfections (ie. knots, etc.) normally present in wood.

I'm trying to branch out in terms of materials, techniques and tools used in my own prop building, and although expensive (as previously stated by Slave) I would like to try my hand at using this material myself, perhaps for a smaller-scale prop to start... :cool:

1st the last one i followed was one of blue's


BishopX said:
Well, the material we use is called Renshape. It has a similar consistency to Bondo but is less chewy. It is primarily used for prototyping. A 16"x40"x2" board is about $650.00. This rifle uses about 65% of a board to make....
and HOLY ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Well, this is a first. I've recently received a pm from someone here that sounded a lot like an accusation of recasting someone else's electrobinocs. The truth is this, in the 7 years that we have been making Star Wars props, we have never recast someone's work. I purchased a casting of electrobinocs. They were so bad, I didn't want to bother with cleaning them up. The parts did not fit together anyway. We decided to make our own. Our weapons department has a Simrad that we were able to measure and were able to mold and cast some of the fins. Unfortunately, we were not permitted to mold and cast from the entire thing. We purchased the real model kit that the parts come from...

The point is this...Why would you bother to accuse or even question if you haven't seen that persons work in person yet. This kind of thing tends to piss people off....one being me.

The pm was very simple but the intent was clear. This is the pm I got...

"You made your binocs from scratch correct? They look very similiar to Richies Armor's binocs."

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BishopX said:
Well, this is a first. I've recently received a pm from someone here that sounded a lot like an accusation of recasting someone else's electrobinocs. The truth is this, in the 7 years that we have been making Star Wars props, we have never recast someone's work.

[...]

The point is this...Why would you bother to accuse or even question if you haven't seen that persons work in person yet. This kind of thing tends to piss people off....one being me.

The pm was very simple but the intent was clear. This is the pm I got...

"You made your binocs from scratch correct? They look very similiar to Richies Armor's binocs."

[...]

Believe me, I've been in that position before, though not here. I recently received a PM on a Star Trek related prop forum I frequent, which was worded almost word for word as the one sent to you, except rather than making reference to someone else's work they referred to thier own.

They'd made thiers as a sellable kit, whereas mine so far is only a one-off item (I had plans to cast it in kit form, though).

I replied, explaining that it was an item I'd scratch-built a while back. I told them the process in which I scratch-built my version of the prop, and said I even had all of the WIP pics to show them if they were really concerned that I'd recast thier work.

Since that response I sent, I haven't heard back from them. So, I either put thier mind at ease, or simply and effectively shut them up, LOL.

I'm right there with your take on this, Bishop. In the seven years I've been in the hobby, I've seen many instances of where someone is publicly accused of recasting another's work. It's gotten pretty ugly at times, too.

What some people don't seem to understand is that if you have two different prop builders, both equally skilled/gifted, and they each decide to make the same prop there are obviously going to be some similarities.

That can be due to any number of things; for example, using the same measurements or other reference material from the same source. If going off of the same reference pics, it's very possible each individual is going to try to reproduce the contours, proportions and what not to the same exacting standards.

Such was the case in my scratch-build; many of the contours were the same on my piece as his, though I have to admit that where he had sharper angles I had more rounded surfaces, in keeping with the accuracy of the screen-used prop.

Anyway, having been in that position before I can definately sympathize with how much you must feel insulted by such accusations. It's been my experience that it's simply easier for most people to jump to conclusions and assume an item has been recast because this detail or that detail looks like it does on so-and-so's replica, rather than give the builder the benefit of the doubt and take them at thier word that the piece was scratch-built.

What's really distasteful is how once one person gets started with that, so many others jump on the "recaster!" bandwagon. Not very becoming or respectful behaviour, imho.

I mean, come on... why do people think only ONE person can make a prop look a certain way? There are so many talented persons in this wonderful hobby, it's to be expected there are going to be some commonalities between different people's work.

Some people just aren't willing to do a little research into it before saying such things *sigh*. If it's justified, then fine, but in most cases it's not. It's usually due to a person's ignorance, and the mentality that they know enough about prop building to voice such an opinion.

The way I see it personally, if a person (a) hasn't actually seen someone's work, and/or (b ) don't have the same skill to make such props themselves, then they really have no right to judge someone else's hard work in that fashion.

What with all the pics you've posted of your progress on those Electrobinocs, I'm surprised that would even be an issue with anyone here or elsewhere.

Well, that's my two-cents worth on this...
 
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Well, maybe I flew off the handle a little. It just pisses me off. We go to great lengths to not argue and have issues with anyone. We try to protect people and ourselves from recasters but still get accused. These are the comments that make you not want to make stuff anymore. Maybe I read into the pm too much but it really does come across the wrong way.
 
SPARTAN II said:
What with all the pics you've posted of your progress on those Electrobinocs, I'm surprised that would even be an issue with anyone here or elsewhere.

...the issue could be that this person who PM'd Bishopx is probably friends with RA and thus felt compelled to say something...most likely miffed that we have somthing out that only RA had for quite sometime...dunno it can only be speculation at this point...but the PM was unsolicited and unappreciated...
 
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personally i just think you should tell the guy, we dont know what your talking about we made this ourselves and we have proof if you really want to bother us to that point. And just drop it, this arguement isnt really wortht he time and effort for you guys. YOu are amazing and everyone knows you do the work yourself so just keep on going.
 
...thanks dude...we appreciate it :)

...sometimes it is best to expose it before it gets ugly...I understand what you are syaing though ;)
 
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