2008 presidential elections

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SpartanForever said:
Yes and democrats IN MY POINT OF VIEW will make a change ... and for the better. Basically, the republicans were tried by the american people and in the american peoples eye's, FAILED, miserably. Obama wants change and thats what you'll get with him.
how did we fail?
 
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If I say who I stand for, I will be flamed to death, so I'm staying out of this one just so the mass who agree with anything they see off tv will leave me alone.
 
AoBfrost said:
If I say who I stand for, I will be flamed to death, so I'm staying out of this one just so the mass who agree with anything they see off tv will leave me alone.


pm me who... i want to know... and no i dont believe everything i see off tv, ive met obama personally and truthfully i believe in what he stands for. So dont judge peoples decisions because you think you know best.
 
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the point is exactly that.... you cannot believe what you see on TV... since Bush passed the patriot act, they can "Pursuede" the News stations to say whatever the gov wants them to. Why do you think all the stuff about recesion and budget failures is just coming into the 'real' public light now? Also, the Government has been in a deadlock. Bush has vetoed everything that has come across his desk since the Dem.'s got the house and the senate, there is no progress to be made were progress isnt allowed.
 
America needs someone fresh and new, we have already seen what the republicans can do wen they have the power but now its time for a democrat. We have already had a Clinton in office, hillary would be nothing without bill, he is practically running her campaign. Like i said its time for someone new, a change, a change like Barrack Obama.

Obama 08!!!
 
The patriot act was made to protect the country, to wiretap, to search the internet, phone calls, anything to find anything about terrorism in country or out of country.

Also, the last time progress was made in our goverment, everyone hated it and liked the old days.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may have left her progressive instincts at the barn door when she drove a starch-, sugar- and fat-bloated bill that all but left out organic farmers through the House last summer, but when it comes to food for Congress, it's out with high-fructose corn syrup and in with uncaged hens and hormone-free milk.

Under Pelosi's signature "Green the Capitol" initiative, the House cafeterias will get a full-blown makeover Monday to the very latest in organic and locally grown cuisine under a new contract with Restaurant Associates, caterer to the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.

The vast House food service operation that feeds the belly of the beast - more than 2.5 million meals a year for members, staff, tourists, lobbyists, lawyers, journalists and other highly regarded species that inhabit the Capitol - is switching to locally grown, organic, seasonal and generally healthy food. It will be served in compostable sugar cane and corn starch containers instead of petroleum-based plastics. Even the knives and forks will be biodegradable.

As many Congressman have said

We want our Jell-O pudding snacks back
 
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AoBfrost said:
The patriot act was made to protect the country, to wiretap, to search the internet, phone calls, anything to find anything about terrorism in country or out of country.

very insightful?

edit: read up on how many rights... constitutional rights you lost because of the USA PATRIOT Act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act

Basically... The way the patriot act works.... is that it can be transformed into whatever excuse the arresting officer/government needs it to be to justify what they're doing.... such as, if your friend knows a terrorist, they can arrest him, and you, and anyone you know... and if your familiar with the "Division or 7" (i believe) that means that once 7 people know someone, they are connected to every single person in the entire world (thats how chain emails get around so fast). So basically, that gives them tthe right to apply the patriot act in yet another way to invade your home and financial record without a warrent.
 
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I may support the candidate I will be voting for, but atleast I dont have his name or picture in my sig and force everyone to look at it. ;)

I can ignore what is on TV, but when I come to a forum which is online, I cant control what people put on their sigs, and I cant ignore it when they post in other topics too.

I'm not going to bring myself down that low to shove into other's faces what candidate i am supporting.
 
AoBfrost said:
I may support the candidate I will be voting for, but atleast I dont have his name or picture in my sig and force everyone to look at it. ;)

I can ignore what is on TV, but when I come to a forum which is online, I cant control what people put on their sigs, and I cant ignore it when they post in other topics too.

I'm not going to bring myself down that low to shove into other's faces what candidate i am supporting.

How do you think every single other canidate runs?.... "Wear Pins!!! Bumperstickers!!! Picket Signs!!! Show your support" That is how every single campaign is run, by every single person running.

Then you go and call us low?
 
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AoBfrost said:
I may support the candidate I will be voting for, but atleast I dont have his name or picture in my sig and force everyone to look at it. ;)

I can ignore what is on TV, but when I come to a forum which is online, I cant control what people put on their sigs, and I cant ignore it when they post in other topics too.

I'm not going to bring myself down that low to shove into other's faces what candidate i am supporting.


HOW in the world is this shoving it in your face.... if you dont want to look dont look, but i like Obama and he is a good man. If you have a problem with other peoples beliefs then you shouldnt even be in a forum. And what the hell does me supporting Barrack Obama have to do with tv??? Just leave this topic if you dont like what your seeing.
 
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SpartanForever said:
HOW in the world is this shoving it in your face.... if you dont want to look dont look, but i like Obama and he is a good man. If you have a problem with other peoples beliefs then you shouldnt even be in a forum. And what the hell does me supporting Barrack Obama have to do with tv??? Just leave this topic if you dont like what your seeing.

He just came in here to piss us off and get us flaming... dont bother dude, it'll just get the thread locked.

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AoBfrost said:
To scroll down to make this post, I saw barrack obama's face.

You scroll down the page and saw the MC too.... but it didnt bother you because you like him.... you only saw what you aparently didnt like.
 
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Xavier said:
He just came in here to piss us off and get us flaming... dont bother dude, it'll just get the thread locked.

Ya thats true, so Xavier if Obama wasnt elected would you go with hillary or would you switch to a republican? I would go with hillary just cause i want a democrat in office but i still wouldnt be happy.
 
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SpartanForever said:
Ya thats true, so Xavier if Obama wasnt elected would you go with hillary or would you switch to a republican? I would go with hillary just cause i want a democrat in office but i still wouldnt be happy.

Im an independent, I just cant vote for Hillary. I would vote Republican.

EDIT: AoB I scroll down the page and i see your advertisment for stuff and you saying "click it" when its probably a referall system, so your sig is just trying to make you money... i dont like that kind of stuff being thrown in my face.. i would never drop to that level...
 
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Xavier said:
Im an independent, I just cant vote for Hillary. I would vote Republican.

haha exactly, most people who want obama would not vote for hillary in office but most people who would vote for hillary would vote for obama if he won.... so obama has a better chance at winning the presidency.
 
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SpartanForever said:
haha exactly, most people who want obama would not vote for hillary in office but most people who would vote for hillary would vote for obama if he won.... so obama has a better chance at winning the presidency.

Yea, but Hilary got Cali..... but like that was her last card.... Obama has still got a full hand.
 
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Xavier said:
Yea, but Hilary got Cali..... but like that was her last card.... Obama has still got a full hand.

Ya and they split cali so its not that big of a deal... AND obama got all the caucuses, he has a butt load more money then hillary so he has a big upper hand on the other states. Also al gore and edwards are prolly gonna endorse obama so thats another huge card.!
 
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my contention is that america isn't going perfectly well, and the media and mostly the internet is using the current administration as a scape goat for ANYTHING going wrong. Now, Bush kinda sucks as a president, but he can only claim part of the problems with america.

Honestly, crap parenting, loss of morality, negativity around the country and lack of responsibility on an individual level is contributing more to problems in the US than any president can encompass. Its a self fulfilling prophecy.

I'm a republican BTW.
 
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