Now Molding!!! Spase WIP...

[tsau mia]

I was just wondering... I'm thinking about making a helmet for my fiance for christmas, the original MC of course, but I wanted to know everything about it before starting such a monumental project. I'm an artist by profession, so I have plenty of knowledge about turning a 2D image into a 3D image. Yours was the best helmet on the site, so I wanted to know a few things.
So to get down to business, I was wondering on a scale of 1-10 with someone who had never done it before, how hard the glaze is, and if I or my fiance were to (heaven forbid) drop the helmet, would the glaze crack? Also, what did you do to the inside of the helmet padding wise? Is it hot inside the helmet? And last one, where did you get your visor, and for how much? I'm a college student, so money saving ideas are always appreciated. Thanks!
~T

 

[Walter Spase]

I was just wondering... I'm thinking about making a helmet for my fiance for christmas, the original MC of course, but I wanted to know everything about it before starting such a monumental project. I'm an artist by profession, so I have plenty of knowledge about turning a 2D image into a 3D image. Yours was the best helmet on the site, so I wanted to know a few things.
So to get down to business, I was wondering on a scale of 1-10 with someone who had never done it before, how hard the glaze is, and if I or my fiance were to (heaven forbid) drop the helmet, would the glaze crack? Also, what did you do to the inside of the helmet padding wise? Is it hot inside the helmet? And last one, where did you get your visor, and for how much? I'm a college student, so money saving ideas are always appreciated. Thanks!
~T

I was wondering on a scale of 1-10 with someone who had never done it before, how hard the glaze is.
1 being toddlers could do it, 10 being kill yourself hard..
8 on the application of glaze to the Helm, but a 3 when sanding to shape... just takes patience, its not a one night thing...

If droped, would it crack?
Yes and no... once the glaze cures, its rock hard, I dropped mine from waist height straight to the concrete floor in my garage, it didn't crack or chip, I couldn't even tell that it hit the floor... but get some paint on it and a layer of clear and that can help with the possibility of cracking... its only like to crack if it "flexes" when it hits the ground, so if you add enough support with fiberglassing the inside, it should be ok, but don't drop it.... it'll take impacts well, it is NOT flexible

Also, what did you do to the inside of the helmet padding wise?
The padding is not fully installed, but I have foam about the same denisty as egg crate cover for a bed thats about an inch thick, it compresses when I have my head inside, and I am planning on covering it with a black cloth...

is it hot inside the helmet?
I have a fan inside, and it does help with being "hot", and this would depend on how active you are... I wouldn't run a marathon in your helm, but walking around it it should be comfortable, as long as its not 100 degrees... its comparable to a motor cycle helmet

And last one, where did you get your visor, and for how much?
I bought it from a local motor cycle shop, and it was 34 dollars... look through the forum for other ideas, there are about 100.... some terrible, some inventive, none as good as motor cycle visor for the "look"...

 

[Ruze789]

That's real nice work, spase. You and darthcalibar are setting the bar verrry high for what can be done with pep. Awesome.

 

[drgon47]

Holy crap! That helmet is fantastic looking.

 

[Doom]

Ehh, Sux.

xD

Looks great, keep the awesome work!

-Doom

 

[dannifood4less]

thats it, screw this, im moving to TEXAS.
-seriously, great job. now ill have to do even better to stay up to par :/

 

[Walter Spase]

thats it, screw this, im moving to TEXAS.
-seriously, great job. now ill have to do even better to stay up to par :/

Blue Realm and Sean are still the par as far as I can say... I am trying to decide whether to mold my helm now or start into the armor set... And move to Texas, If your not allready here, we are waiting for you...

 

[feigned echo]

Blue Realm and Sean are still the par as far as I can say... I am trying to decide whether to mold my helm now or start into the armor set... And move to Texas, If your not allready here, we are waiting for you...

what's your reasoning for rating the dificulty of the glaze so high? and do you think a sixteen year old with no experience with bondo, or this stuff, would be able to handle this glaze?

 

[DemonSandWizards]

yeah, im only 16 (well, ina couple months...) and this is how i want to make my helm. but again, DAMN GOOD JOB!!! U ARE PEPAKURA GOD!!!! i seriously think this is the best pepakura helm yet. awesome. jsut awesome.

 

[Toftt Nightmare]

Excellent Work man! I will be sure to try this on my Halo 3 Pep armor.. If I ever get to it, right now Halo 3 is killing me

 

[Walter Spase]

The thing about Glaze is its not really hard to work with, its just hard to apply... because it doesn't want to stay where you put it, so you have to work in smaller areas, I had to build "retaining" walls in several places so the resin would not try to run off the surface, and to build up thickness... it just takes more patience. Also it goes from flowing with a "smoothish" surface, to clumpy in all of about 30 seconds (only if you are still trying to maipulate it, it'll stay smooth if you do not manipulate when it starts to cure)... Then in about 30 seconds its relatively hard. It just takes requires more supervision than Bondo Putty, but I like the way it finishes better.... Basically, it's what I prefer, but for the general crowd here, I would just use Bondo Putty/Body Filler...

Here is an illustration of what I mean, For the sake of arguement, and a better illustration, the filler materials are blue... Bondo Putty should be a light pink, as should the glaze if you mix in red cream hardener...

If you work with Bondo putty, make sure you smooth it on to the surface, rather than just kind of "ploping" it on. By smoothing it you force out the air pockets and you can reduce the frequecy of the pits and pin holes you notice after sanding.

Glaze, because of the self leveling aspect, tends to not have near the amount, if any, of the pin hole and pits found after sanding bondo putty... without the necessary smoothing, as it tries to smooth itself... I also prefer the way it sands when almost hard, to that of Putty ...

In my Build pictures you see tape all over the place as I am applying the glaze, this is to keep it from running onto a surface where I don't want it, I also use it to build little walls to keep it in place... it takes practice to know when to do this, but as it begins it set, you pull the tape off, in a way tearing the glaze because its partially set, but its ok because I place it in a place that the small tear will be sanded smooth anyway... if your not careful, and you wait until the glaze has harden to much, then you risk ripping a large portion away with the tape, and then you have to fill it later.... if you pull the tape to soon, then the glaze runs where you didn't want it, so why did you tape to begin with....

In MY opinion, I prefer glaze, but a comparable result can be reached with bondo, it just takes practice, and its what you are good at..

 

[Sean Bradley]

Just want to chime in here, I'm a little late to the party.

Spase, your helmet is STELLAR! Makes even old salts like me jealous.

Thank you for your contribution to this site, and keep up the excellent work!

-Sean

 

[feigned echo]

Then in about 30 seconds its relatively hard

i think i can stand watching it for thirty seconds, but i think i'll wait until your tutorial to start this, so i don't screw it up.

 

[xT3T0x]

WOW that is amazing
good job

 

[Walter Spase]

Tutorial tomorrow, its time for an MC to go party for once...

 

[FinAeros]

That is freaking Phenomenal!

 

[shadow74]

WOW, thats amazing work!!

I'm still a little confused but I'm sure I'll figure it out sooner or later.

I think you should write a tutorial for this, this would help tons of people achieve this level of greatness in pepakura.

Really, some one, anyone make a tut for any peice of armor

 

[Leadingspartan]

NO offence to anyone, but i cannot tell the difference between his, and blue realms.

 

[Gamer]

that is the best helm ive ever seen it does not even look like its Pep
and also, What size corrugated pipe did you use on your helm?

 

[SGT Razor]

NO offence to anyone, but i cannot tell the difference between his, and blue realms.

How would that be offensive? That's a compliment.