"Help!" for: Fiberglassing, Resin, & Bondo

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Yes, you use the fiberglass resin on the outside of the helmet to give it strength so you can apply the fiberglass cloth/mat on the inside without the piece warping. There is no set amount of coats you must use. You just want to coat it enough to give it strength, but not so much that you lose details due to resin pooling up in certain areas.

thanks SirPalesAlot
 
Hi I just wanted to ask what bondo/bog do people use as the stuff I have used clumps up rather easy and does not give a good finish
 
Are there temperature requirements for Fiberglass resin? I thought at first it didn't matter but then I began to look it up and people talked about making sure it gets plenty of heat. Now I'm worried that if I try to do it now (during the fall/winter season) that it won't set right. Please help. Thank you.
 
Read the directions on the can. The min/max temperature is there. The min should be 40 degrees feranheit.
 
Hi I just wanted to ask what bondo/bog do people use as the stuff I have used clumps up rather easy and does not give a good finish

It would be helpful to know what kind you are using. A picture of the can or whatnot.

We usually use Bondo brand in America, you saying "bog" makes me think you are in Australia or the UK (I forget which it is). I know there is a more clay based one that is popular there, but really without knowing what you're using I can't offer much help.
 
So wile I'm waiting on cash to buy some resin and bondo and such.
I was wondering during the resining process about maybe thinning the resin with acetone to maybe aid it in soaking into the paper more, at my old work we worked with alot of composits like kevlar and fiberglass and we would use a mixture of resin and acetone to seal the parts for pressure tests. I worked at a subcontract of Boeing.

I was wondering if this might work for the paper too making it so you could apply a thinner coat and not worry about it gooping up and loosing some detail? But I'm concerned that doing a thin coat might make the curing process take an unreasionably long time or not even fully curing at all due to the thinner coat, and also would this make it a higher risk of warping due to the resin being able to soak into the paper easier?

What do you guys think? Do you think it might be a good idea, or a terrible idea, or maybe something I should try out and let you guys know afterwards?
 
I've not tried this, and don't recall anyone else trying it. It might be worth at least a test run on a simple piece.
 
If you are worried about external detail, you can also resin JUST the inside of the piece.

If anything, thinning the resin down can cause more troubles, as it will pool in any indented areas, and have a thicker coat on the bottom of the piece than the top (gravity)
 
i have recentley started aproject and used a base pepakura modle with curentley two cots of resin on the insde and out. unfortunitley it is worped. i what wondering what i could use as a filler in the spots that need it and what can i do about patrooding dents? since the helmet is hallow i dont know how to fix the big bumps.
 
i have recentley started aproject and used a base pepakura modle with curentley two cots of resin on the insde and out. unfortunitley it is worped. i what wondering what i could use as a filler in the spots that need it and what can i do about patrooding dents? since the helmet is hallow i dont know how to fix the big bumps.

If you could provide some pictures of your helmet, that would help us to determine whether or not it's feasible. Depending on the severity of the warping, you may or may not be able to fix it with filler. At a certain point it just becomes a waste of money to try, when rebuilding would be easier.
 
So I was lurking around the different forums looking at other peoples projects and a question popped into my head: Is it necessary to put Bondo on a piece of armor? Or can I just coat it in resin and paint it?
 
Especially back before halo armor techniques were really nailed down to a science, there were a LOT of builds that had no smoothing on the outside. It was sort of neat because it was a "more accurate" Halo CE chief since it was fairly polygonal looking.

You don't need to smooth the outside, as was mentioned above, it will just look very low res.
 
Would thinning the resin with acetone make it too...watery? I can't think of a chemical term besides "diluted", but what I'm wondering is if the diluted version wouldn't actually make the pepp work soggy, and result in what I would imagine would be some massive warping. Like leaving a newspaper in the rain.
 
HI guys, a question that may be stupid: what are your tricks to reduce the crazy amount of dust when you sand the bondo layers? working outside is not a big deal...but if you work inside....
 
Use a rasp to take down most of the bondo before you start sanding. The rasp will create larger pieces than sand paper would; very little dust if any. When you move to using sand paper, consider wet sanding (wetting down the piece a little before sanding, or simply wiping it with a damp rag before you sand). Also, if you want a minimum amount of dust, it's best to stay away from power sanders as much as possible.
 
Thanks! I'm not using automatic tools yet (and I will not, after you suggestion ;) ). However, I'll try wet the surface a bit. If wet, will the sanding paper still work?
 
Regular sand paper will hold up for a while, but automotive sand paper works better for wetsanding IME. Keep in mind that if you make the surface too wet, it will end up gumming up the sandpaper after a while. Another method, aside from wet sanding, is to get the surface as smooth as you can with a rasp and a file, then slowly and methodically sand with a piece of sand paper. This will still create dust, but it will not be flying all over the place.
 
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